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Post by Jennalaia on Apr 29, 2019 0:38:39 GMT
wizard of az > Have you ever read Master & Margarita? wizard of az > I think you would find it interesting.
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Post by celyren on Apr 30, 2019 2:01:19 GMT
paradise > Az! paradise > I haven't paradise > would you recommend I buy or borrow it?
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Post by Jennalaia on Apr 30, 2019 3:02:14 GMT
wizard of az > It depends on what you like. wizard of az > It doesn't really have a main protagonist, unless you count the titular Master and his lover, Margarita. wizard of az > Most of the novel revolves around the exploits of Woland, a mysterious professor who arrives in Moscow along with his entourage, including a naked woman and a giant cat. wizard of az > Woland is actually Satan, who's in town to run a show and wreak havoc in Moscow. wizard of az > Within the first 40 pages a man gets his head cut off. The severed head shows up later in the book when Satan throws a party. wizard of az > I would check it out at the library first and then buy it if it intrigues you. wizard of az > It's a pretty interesting take on the Faustian tale. wizard of az > I'm sure that it would be more popular if it didn't have the jarring format of switching to the perspective of a completely different character virtually every chapter. wizard of az > It also does some non-linear stuff by diving into the Master's novel, which revolves around Pontius Pilate and his condemnation of Jesus. wizard of az > wizard of az > Sorry. I get excited when I talk about books.
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Apr 30, 2019 13:54:06 GMT
Post by celyren on Apr 30, 2019 13:54:06 GMT
paradise > it seems so interesting! paradise > i'll take your word and borrow first, but with such a glowing appraisal, I'm sure it'll be worth my money paradise > and it's really really alright! paradise > I love books too paradise > it's really nice to see someone who is so openly passionate about them! paradise > I'm not the best at talking about them myself paradise > but I love reading, and I love listening to other people who love reading
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Apr 30, 2019 14:12:15 GMT
Post by Jennalaia on Apr 30, 2019 14:12:15 GMT
wizard of az > I'm not great with people so I prefer books. wizard of az > Which is weird because I'm an empath so you'd think I'd be awesome with people. wizard of az > Books are just... nice. They don't leak emotions out at you and they're predictable when you've read them a few times. wizard of az > Plus they're a pretty easy way to understand people. I've found you can tell what kind of person someone is depending on the books they read and how they interact with them. wizard of az > Whether they read for pleasure, or read to be educated, or read to gain a new perspective. wizard of az > Things like that. wizard of az > Do you have any recommendations? How are you liking House of Leaves so far?
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Apr 30, 2019 14:24:19 GMT
Post by celyren on Apr 30, 2019 14:24:19 GMT
paradise > you seem fairly good with people from what i've seen paradise > or at least paradise > you're good with me, haha paradise > you've become a quick friend! paradise > um, for reference paradise > i guess i mostly read for entertainment, i love going to new worlds paradise > as well as it's a lot more free then other forms of media in terms of how long you have to take paradise > it doesn't matter if i'm full of energy or if i'm very low, i can still read paradise > and i can stop and start when i need without feeling like i'm missing something paradise > oh! House of Leaves is a little odd duck huh? paradise > the formatting is really something paradise > it makes me think paradise > not enough to shut all my windows and put measuring tape all around my house but maybe we'll get there still!
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Apr 30, 2019 18:08:51 GMT
Post by Jennalaia on Apr 30, 2019 18:08:51 GMT
wizard of az > I'm not normally great with people. wizard of az > I tend to keep my empathy suppressed because I think it's rude to invade other people's feelings like that. So I guess I'm not actually great with reading people. wizard of az > I'm honored to be your friend, though. wizard of az > Personally I read mostly for pleasure, but I also like reading things that make me change my perspective on things. wizard of az > Things that make me think. wizard of az > Like House of Leaves! wizard of az > I like the multiple narrators and perspectives it has, though it makes it a little tricky to keep up with the story since Johnny's narration seems to be nonlinear. wizard of az > It's also interesting to see the differences between their narration. Zapato's writing is concise and clear, while Johnny... wizard of az > Rambles. wizard of az > A lot. wizard of az > Did you reach the two-and-a-half-page sentence yet?
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Post by celyren on May 2, 2019 1:45:23 GMT
paradise > that's really thoughtful paradise > the not wanting to invade people's feelings thing paradise > i'm sure if you could be more upfront about your considerate nature, you'd make a lot of friends paradise > oh! reading for different perspectives is great! paradise > and House of Leaves sure has those paradise > i've probably hit the two-and-a-half-page sentence but i wasn't exactly paying much attention paradise > i get lost when reading Johnny's segments easily, so he could be rambling for ten pages and i wouldn't notice in particular
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Post by Jennalaia on May 2, 2019 18:56:01 GMT
wizard of az > I'm not really one to take the initiative though... wizard of az > Even when we met, you were the one that talked to me first I think. wizard of az > House of Leaves is a pretty interesting analysis of different narratives intruding on each other and gradually becoming more unreliable as the book progresses. wizard of az > Johnny sure does like to ramble, huh. wizard of az > At least they got the part about men doing nothing but talk about themselves right.
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Post by celyren on May 3, 2019 2:38:48 GMT
paradise > that's because you gave a pleasant aura! paradise > i'm sure a lot of people feel it, you just have to somehow let them know you're approachable! paradise > House of Leaves is really interesting paradise > did you know, i thought 'Ed' was a character called 'Edward' at first? paradise > but it's the editors paradise > i was definitely thrown for a loop the first time they said anything paradise > they did get that right, that's for sure paradise > i guess Zampano also rambles in his own way paradise > but it's easily forgive him because you forget that he's not talking about a movie that exists in his reality
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Post by Jennalaia on May 3, 2019 2:59:41 GMT
wizard of az > I give off a pleasant aura...? wizard of az > I try my best to stay in the background most of the time. wizard of az > Yeah, I guessed Ed was 'Editor' because it had a period after it. wizard of az > I can see how you thought otherwise though. wizard of az > Zampano is ALLOWED to ramble, though. Because it's his manuscript. wizard of az > It's Johnny who's intruding in on it and providing his running commentary, and his commentary almost literally runs off somewhere else entirely half the time. wizard of az > In-universe, I'm not sure why the editors left his notes in. Half the time he's not even talking about something that's related to what's going on in the Navidson Record.
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Post by celyren on May 3, 2019 3:09:45 GMT
paradise > maybe being in the background is your pleasant aura! paradise > doesn't it say somewhere in the beginning of the book about the editors? paradise > wait paradise > yeah! paradise > they wrote the foreward! paradise > coughs anyway paradise > but yeah! paradise > i meannnnnnnnnn paradise > all of that is assuming the reality of each layer paradise > is Johnny interupting Zampano's story? paradise > or is Zampano a fiction character in Johnny's story? paradise > if Zampano doesn't exist, then Johnny is just interrupting his own story paradise > oh! and! paradise > Johnny doesn't exist anyway, and Zampano doesn't! paradise > it's all Danielewski! paradise > so he's just interrupting himself!
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Post by Jennalaia on May 3, 2019 21:35:10 GMT
wizard of az > You make it sound like I'm doomed to be a side character... wizard of az > wizard of az > wizard of az > You're making my brain hurt with all this meta.
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Post by celyren on May 3, 2019 23:20:24 GMT
paradise > no! paradise > you start in the background, but then you become the main character! paradise > it's a surprise twist! paradise > paradise > hehe sorry paradise > it's just super interesting to me paradise > like even at times you forget that Navidson was made up by Zampano paradise > and you're engrossed in his story like it happened as well
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Post by Jennalaia on May 5, 2019 0:00:53 GMT
wizard of az > I don't think I have the mentality to be a main character. wizard of az > Being a side character sounds so much easier. wizard of az > Unless I'm a red shirt. Then I'm doomed to die. wizard of az > wizard of az > Okay, but who's to say that, in the fiction of the novel, the Navidson Record didn't happen? wizard of az > I think that's one of the scary parts. Like Johnny doesn't know if it's for real or not, even though the Navidson Record itself doesn't exist in-universe. wizard of az > And whatever's happening to him, he has no way of knowing whether or not it's connected to the manuscript, but he damn sure seems to think so.
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